277 | Scriptnotes Hosts John August & Craig Mazin: The Craft Lessons That Matter Most

John August and Craig Mazin - hosts of the legendary Scriptnotes podcast - join us for a wide-ranging conversation inspired by their new book, Scriptnotes: A Book About Screenwriting and Things That Are Interesting to Screenwriters. 

We talk about why rigid structure can miss the point, how theme emerges from character, what fear and denial really look like on the page, and how writers can survive rejection without letting it define them. 

A candid, funny, and deeply reassuring conversation for writers at every stage.

A special thanks to Scriptnotes producer Drew Marquardt and editor Matthew Chilelli for their support with this episode.